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            <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: &quot;When Only a Gibson ISN'T Good Enough&quot; :: Reply by AC50</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: 150%; line-height: 116%;"><span style="font-weight: bold">Out of control: Feds ready to seize more guitars at concerts</span></span><br /><br />&quot;The US’s fourth branch of government, the bureaucracy, is at it again.  For some reason, the US Fish and Wildlife Service sees it necessary to use American taxpayer dollars to focus on a tariff law violation concerning wood.  They are so determined to eradicate illegal wood that they are even considering threatening this year’s summer concerts.  Among some of the notable names of rock stars that might be affected: Sheryl Crow, Van Halen, and especially Ted Nugent are on the roster.<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic">The target is the world renowned Gibson Guitars; the ones that the titans of rock will be playing this summer.  Of course, this isn’t the first time that the Feds have come to blows with this delinquent guitar manufacturer.  On August 25th, 2011 the US Fish and Wildlife Service raided the Memphis and Nashville Gibson factories with astonishing force and guns drawn: as if they were expecting return fire.<br /><br />This year, the Feds must really be itching for a fight.  Apparently, they intend to play ball on the away field, and raid 2012 summer concerts.  Of course, their track record suggests that guns will be drawn for these raids too. </span> These reports have many Americans dumbfounded that this could even be happening in the country where rock was invented.&quot; <br /><br />More:<br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ijreview.com/2012/05/5881-out-of-control-feds-ready-to-seize-more-guitars-at-concerts/">http://www.ijreview.com/2012/05/5881-ou ... -concerts/</a><!-- m -->]]></description>
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            <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Crowded House drummer Peter Jones dies at 45 :: Author AC50</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I loved this band.<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18137221">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18137221</a><!-- m -->]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 13:57:34 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: NC / VA / PA      AYH's MUSCLE THEORY :: Author ayh</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[If you're in the path....<br /><br />ALVIN YOUNGBLOOD HART'S Muscle Theory<br /><br />06 Jun Charlotte NC at The Double Door Inn<br />07 Jun Vienna VA at Jammin Java<br />08 Jun Glenville PA at The beautiful,spacious Snail Pie Lounge<br />09 Jun Media PA at The State Street Blues Stroll]]></description>
            <author>no_email@example.com (ayh)</author>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 14:49:28 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Grab and go amp :: Reply by MacG</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[My Princeton Reverb with an old 12&quot; Celestion. After 30 years I´ve finally discovered how nice it is to be able to carry everything in one go. An old Rat or my Fulldrive2, maybe a delay in the guitarcase, and I can cover almost everything.<br />But I´m looking for a Deluxe Reverb. With 6L6´s in it might give me the clarity I miss with the Princeton. It´s too throaty. Also my Princeton is an ´81 (?) and has a cab made out of particleboard. I put it in a repro cab made out of pine, and the difference was stunning... It just never ends... <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" />]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 08:35:40 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Grab and go amp :: Reply by AC50</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>MacG wrote:</cite>My Princeton Reverb with an old 12&quot; Celestion. After 30 years I´ve finally discovered how nice it is to be able to carry everything in one go. An old Rat or my Fulldrive2, maybe a delay in the guitarcase, and I can cover almost everything.<br />But I´m looking for a Deluxe Reverb. With 6L6´s in it might give me the clarity I miss with the Princeton. It´s too throaty. Also my Princeton is an ´81 (?) and has a cab made out of particleboard. I put it in a repro cab made out of pine, and the difference was stunning... It just never ends... <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /></div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />I used to have an old blackface Princeton Reverb, way back around 1978.  I remember it being a very cool little amp!  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" />]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 13:51:45 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Grab and go amp :: Reply by ayh</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[When one o' these  PJs aint enough , there's the Marshall 4010<br /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/ayhcult/Juniors.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 14:47:05 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Grab and go amp :: Reply by AC50</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Alvin, the bias is off. The tweed needs to go on top.   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" />]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 14:50:00 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>eBay Watch :: Re: Klon scam on ebay :: Reply by Unit_1</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[realize that ebay is a legally binding contract and that you have fulfilled your obligation thereof<br /><br />he is HOLDING <span style="text-decoration: underline"> ***your property***<br /></span><br />it is no longer his in eyes of the law.  he cannot be prosecuted under criminal law but under civil law he would be liable for your court, your council, and recovery of property or funds plus interest.<br /><br />it is, however, in your best interest to NOT MENTION the seller's name - and the title of this subject (if associated with a seller) comes close to defamation<br /><br />they have not yet defaulted on the contract which has 45 day terms.<br /><br />if the seller does not meet his obligation then you can call it a scam and include his name, but this also would be best avoided as anyone can sue anybody for anything at any time and at the very least it's an incredible hassle.]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 03:44:56 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>eBay Watch :: Re: Klon scam on ebay :: Reply by gibsondog</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[cheers for the advise,sort of thought that ,i was really just asking for advice ,or see  what people think about paypal or ebay giving me my money <br />back.]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 06:58:55 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>eBay Watch :: Re: Original Trainwreck - Ken Fischer :: Reply by Strat59</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Unit_1 wrote:</cite>:shock: <br />SUV, or a beat up amp with orange drops.....  really hard to decide, NOT</div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/laff.gif" alt=":laff:" title="Laff" />    I always thought those Trainwrecks were some Magical Amp with the prices they fetch and the Hype surrounding them. First time I've seen<br />   inside one ......... looks like a Kit Amp !  A few Sprague Electrolytics , some resistors and Orange Drops , 2 x Transformers....... How much $$$ for <br />   that lot of parts ?]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 02:23:16 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>eBay Watch :: Re: Original Trainwreck - Ken Fischer :: Reply by Bunnest</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Gee, it would be really tough to decide on that amp or like Eight plexis (if you could find 'em) if I had the money <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" />]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 18:17:42 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Classified Ads for Used Gear :: Re: goodmans of England :: Reply by lewilson</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[PM  sent]]></description>
            <author>no_email@example.com (lewilson)</author>
            <category>Classified Ads for Used Gear</category>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 00:15:56 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Classified Ads for Used Gear :: WTT: 12AX7 Mullard/Telefunken FOR Bugle Boy Hollands :: Author ...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I am looking to pick up a few Bugle Boys Holland Tubes.  I have some Mullards and Telefunkins to trade.  Other trade options available...if you got some Bugles toot me!!!<br /><br />Dan]]></description>
            <author>no_email@example.com (Bunnest)</author>
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            <title>Marshall :: Re: 1968 1982b Repair tolex or leave alone? :: Reply by sound city 69</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[[quote=&quot;demonufo&quot;]Given that you just can't get tolex that will match that original stuff particularly well, I'd leave well alone I think, depending on the circumstances.<br /><br /><br />For me personally though, if I was sure that I'd never have any intent of getting rid of it, then I'd do the repairs, as ugly tends to bother me somewhat. I like a little patina, but gaping holes, nay. Trouble is, how cleanly are you going to be able to repair the side... <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /> <br /><br /><br />Hmm, that doesn't help much really, does it! <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" />[/quote<br /><br />Thanks,<br />    I think for now at least, I'll just leave it alone. I didn't realize that the new tolex was that much different.]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 04:30:15 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Marshall :: Re: 1968 1982b Repair tolex or leave alone? :: Reply by LD50</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>sound city 69 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>demonufo wrote:</cite>Given that you just can't get tolex that will match that original stuff particularly well, I'd leave well alone I think, depending on the circumstances.<br />For me personally though, if I was sure that I'd never have any intent of getting rid of it, then I'd do the repairs, as ugly tends to bother me somewhat. I like a little patina, but gaping holes, nay. Trouble is, how cleanly are you going to be able to repair the side... <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /> <br />Hmm, that doesn't help much really, does it! <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /></div></blockquote><br />Thanks,<br />    I think for now at least, I'll just leave it alone. I didn't realize that the new tolex was that much different.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Depending on how ugly it is I might be tempted to use the stuff off the back to repair the side.<br /><br />The new standard Marshall black stuff is not bad, but will often stick out a bit (on its own panel rather than a patch may be ok).  I believe that Marshall do some HW spec levant that has more of the black on green colour.  I have seen a cab recovered by a member here (extraordinarily well and accurately) using this stuff and it is indistinguishable from an original, if that helps <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" />]]></description>
            <author>no_email@example.com (LD50)</author>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 13:41:57 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Marshall :: Re: 1968 1982b Repair tolex or leave alone? :: Reply by demonufo</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>LD50 wrote:</cite>I believe that Marshall do some HW spec levant that has more of the black on green colour.  I have seen a cab recovered by a member here (extraordinarily well and accurately) using this stuff and it is indistinguishable from an original, if that helps <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /></div></blockquote><br /><br /> <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /> Excellent news. Might just have to try and tap Marshall up for some myself, didn't realise there were decent options available nowadays. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup" />]]></description>
            <author>no_email@example.com (demonufo)</author>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 19:49:35 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Marshall :: Re: Two new Plexi clips , with G12H. :: Reply by Neve2</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Figured it was nice if there was some working clips, man it's been 10 years almost now.<br />Here they are.<br /><br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=769004&amp;songID=6822593">http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=6822593</a><!-- m --><br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=769004&amp;songID=6822594">http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=6822594</a><!-- m -->]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 19:57:42 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Vox :: Re: traveller schematic :: Reply by R.G.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[If you can trace out the circuit of the power amp you have, we can figure it out. <br /><br />If it's a non-driver-transformer solid state amp, then the use of one diode for output bias is not a big issue. Most direct coupled push/pull amps work with a wire subbed in for bias diodes. They just produce more crossover distortion, which can be fixed once you get the rest of it running.<br /><br />One of the biggest issues is whether it has a small driver transformer or not.]]></description>
            <author>no_email@example.com (R.G.)</author>
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            <title>Vox :: Re: Earliest AC100 Chassis Ever Seen? :: Reply by voxjunior</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I was a little quick to say this may be the earliest chassis ever seen.<br /><br />I checked the AC100 website and found pictures of several copper panel heads with Woden transformers that have the same date code of MU (Dec. 1963).  These include heads with the following serial numbers on the cabinet plate: 178, 206, 221 and 225.<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.voxac100.org.uk/page_02.htm">http://www.voxac100.org.uk/page_02.htm</a><!-- m -->]]></description>
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            <title>Vox :: Re: Earliest AC100 Chassis Ever Seen? :: Reply by Somerset</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Yes indeed, so too no. 173 though painted over with black paint; and for the others listed on that page.  There are a few more of these amps &quot;in the wild&quot; - waiting on details of a couple more to come through.]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 19:23:46 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Brownie Lovers: which is more desirable: Vibrolux or Pro :: Reply by steveokla</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[This has been a great discussion of these amps, and I really appreciate everyones' contributions.  It's really difficult to talk about impressions of amp tone and character, and these posts have managed to do it a meaningful way nevertheless.<br /><br />It's really intriguing to get reads like this from folks with experience with lots of these amps.  When I first got the brown bug, I tracked down a '62 Super.  A beautiful little amp it was.  I loved the tone, but it didn't 'feel' right under my fingers somehow.  I can't really explain it: just didn't seem to 'give' where and when I wanted, as quirky as that sounds.  It was easy enough to sell--dead straight save the filter caps and super clean.  I never did figure out why I couldn't connect.<br /><br />A couple years later, I talked my buddy and amp tech into dragging some of the ones he had into the shop.  He brought: Vibrosonic; a couple Pro's; Deluxe and a Vibrolux.  I took each one home and played them for a couple days.  Here's where I came out:<br /><br />Vibrosonic: hugely disappointing for what I was after.  Clean, blunt, and kind of lifeless.  Tone was wonderful, but didn't grind.  I thought it would make a great jazz amp, but that's not what I had in mind for it.  Too clean, I guess, and kind of hard.  Maybe the rectifier and giant iron?<br /><br />Deluxe: superb little amp--captures to my ear what may be the essence of the line.  The little thing had enormous character and complexity for such a small package.  I passed because I was after something bigger.<br /><br />Pro:  Really liked this, SS rectifier notwithstanding (got a strong preference for tube rectifiers).  I came very close to pulling the trigger on this one.  Doubtless, some of it had to do with the 15: I'm a really big fan of 15's, especially with single coils.  I came close to choosing this one.<br /><br />Vibrolux: this one nailed me.  Had a lot of what I loved about the Deluxe but with a lot more power and headroom.  I liked the idea of a smallish box with medium-size amp capabilities, or something very near it.  <br /><br />Could only get one, so I picked the Vibrolux.  It was stock except for filter caps and one tube socket.  However, no speaker.  My buddy had installed a mid-60's Oxford that was pretty much correct, and I played it like that for a brief period.  Thereafter, I popped in a JBL D120F from '62: the thing turned into an absolute beast.  It took the amp to legitimate medium venue capacity.  Given the size of the box, it wasn't quite to the level of the journeyman 40 watters like my BFSR or BFPR, but it was perilously close.  <br /><br />IMHO, it's too bad Fender abandoned that amp.  I guess the BFVR filled that void, but I got a real nice '64, as I recall, maybe a '65, later and, on AB'ing it with the brown Vibrolux, the brown won hands down.  The BF (pictured below) was a dandy--super, super clean, and I traded it and ponied up a little cash besides to my tech for my '56 Pro.<br /><br />Fact is, except for the Vibrosonic, I'm a real brownie fan.  The Pro my guy had is still there, and, lately, I've been thinking about going up after it--that's why the post.  The discourse in response has been really interesting and helpful.  <br /><br /><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o90/steveokla/29526_392537616989_308695951989_4745004_2509908_n.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 04:20:56 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Speaker Rec's for AB763 DR and 6G11 Vibrolux :: Reply by steveokla</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>kblues wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>steveokla wrote:</cite>This is a real nice little amp, and I&quot;m grateful to Ken.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Back at ya...except for the &quot;little&quot; part.  Man that Bassman roars.  <br /><br />Some pretty knowledgeable guys call the Celestian Gold the best amp speaker ever...I guess I should give one a try.</div></blockquote><br />Indeed, you must.  You should hear what this thing turns the DR into.  I'd love to hear a pair of Celestian Golds in your Tremolux: with that unique Tremolux voicing, I thing those speakers would take it to heretofore unimagined vistas!]]></description>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Choice of Clone :: Reply by Strat59</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[or if you prefer to buy fully built ,  <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.clarkamplification.com">www.clarkamplification.com</a><!-- w -->    <br /><br />  Mike does superb work. 1st grade clear pine cab , all Carbon Comp Resistors, Jensen P&amp;0 Coupling Caps , Sprague Electrolytics , Hand Wound Trannies<br />  (Custom Wound - 240v) in my case.  I bought a 5E3 Beaufort , put a 1959 P12Q in it , Killer. Compared to my '59 Orig 5E3 it sounded too close for <br />  comfort. <br /><br />  He also does BF , and I see is now doing a BF Vibroverb.<br /><br />  The Beaufort I took to a friends studio for one of the engineers to record it with his own Eric Johnson Strat , he loved ot so much ....... he now owns it.]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 02:46:43 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Choice of Clone :: Reply by MacG</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>LD50 wrote:</cite>As I have my Marshall and Vox needs catered for I am hankering after a small/medium sized Fender combo, there is something special about the Fender cleans that my Marshalls and Vox can never <span style="font-style: italic">quite</span> get.<br /><br />In the UK we are not as well served by lots of tidy Blackface or Tweed era amps so I am contemplating building a clone.<br /><br />If I were to build one it would have to be pretty accurate and have the best transformers to get as close to the original sounds as possible (is this possible?).<br /><br />I have been thinking a Low power tweed twin or a Deluxe Reverb might be the ticket.<br /><br />Can anyone point me in the right direction.  I am not averse to shipping stuff in from the USA if that is what I have to do but European suppliers would be more convenient (shipping/import duty etc).<br /><br />Thanks in advance.</div></blockquote><br /><br /><a href="http://www.tubeampdoctor.com/en/shop_Amp_Kits_Cabinets_AMP_Kit_Blackface/Amp_Kit_Blackface_Deluxe_Rev_AB763_3406" class="postlink">http://www.tubeampdoctor.com/en/shop_Amp_Kits_Cabinets_AMP_Kit_Blackface/Amp_Kit_Blackface_Deluxe_Rev_AB763_3406</a><br /><br />I believe they are made by Mojo. Since you build very nice Marshall clones, why don´t you just source the parts, and do your own version ?]]></description>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Choice of Clone :: Reply by ziess</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I've built a lot of clones in the UK.  The cheapest way to do it is to source components from local places.  <br />I get my cabs from AF Custom in southern Wales - <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://afcustomcabinets.weebly.com/">http://afcustomcabinets.weebly.com/</a><!-- m --><br />The rest I source from all over the place.  I've done a few Webers but unless you're set on their (very,very good) speakers it can be cost prohibitive.  <br />I can email you some pics if you like.<br /><br />Tommy.]]></description>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Choice of Clone :: Reply by LD50</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Some good stuff - keep it coming <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> <br /><br />I have lots of parts (even admit it myself) most for Marshall resto/clone stuff.<br /><br />I have seen the TAD stuff which is getting less expensive for UK buyers with the Euro shennanigans.  I was not sure how good the transformers were in these?<br /><br />I would need to buy a pine 1x12 combo cab (tweed or black tolex) the chassis and plates and some transformers and the Fender specific parts, mainly to make it look up to scratch.  I plan on using a spare Alnico gold I have (although have a range of ceramic Celestions of H/M etc from 67 to 81 to choose from if better suited).<br /><br />The BFDR sounds as if might suit my needs best (see the grab and go thread!) to pair with one of my Marshalls with an ABY switch?]]></description>
            <author>no_email@example.com (LD50)</author>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 13:36:40 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Choice of Clone :: Reply by MacG</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>LD50 wrote:</cite>Some good stuff - keep it coming <img src="http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> <br /><br />I have lots of parts (even admit it myself) most for Marshall resto/clone stuff.<br /><br />I have seen the TAD stuff which is getting less expensive for UK buyers with the Euro shennanigans.  I was not sure how good the transformers were in these?<br /><br />I would need to buy a pine 1x12 combo cab (tweed or black tolex) the chassis and plates and some transformers and the Fender specific parts, mainly to make it look up to scratch.  I plan on using a spare Alnico gold I have (although have a range of ceramic Celestions of H/M etc from 67 to 81 to choose from if better suited).<br /><br />The BFDR sounds as if might suit my needs best (see the grab and go thread!) to pair with one of my Marshalls with an ABY switch?</div></blockquote><br /><br />I would go for the Mojo/TAD SFDR. If Fender Cleans are what you miss, then it must be a BF circuit, and that kit seems to be the best bet, and then maybe substitute parts. Or find a way to import one of these: <a href="http://www.allenamps.com/accomplice.php" class="postlink">http://www.allenamps.com/accomplice.php</a>]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 14:49:57 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Choice of Clone :: Reply by Swingville</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>drewleslie wrote:</cite>Yep, lotsa choices.  I was just relating to LC50 what I have hands on experiences with.</div></blockquote><br />Oh. Thought your post was about building a Fender Twin or DR clone.<br />My bad.]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 15:20:03 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Choice of Clone :: Reply by ziess</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I used one of these on my DRbuild;<br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Deluxe-Reverb-Chassis-and-much-more-/320907051676?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4ab78d029c">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Deluxe-R ... 4ab78d029c</a><!-- m --><br /><br />Looks very good.  Doesn't include a cap cover but you can get them from Solsound on ebay.  He also normally has the right value CTS pots for the DR along with the correct 1/4&quot; and RCA sockets.  <br /><br />Here's how mine ended up;<br /><br /><img src="http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i250/ytomk/3dd3eab8.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 16:43:42 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Choice of Clone :: Reply by MacG</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>ziess wrote:</cite>I used one of these on my DRbuild;<br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Deluxe-Reverb-Chassis-and-much-more-/320907051676?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4ab78d029c">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Deluxe-R ... 4ab78d029c</a><!-- m --><br /><br />Looks very good.  Doesn't include a cap cover but you can get them from Solsound on ebay.  He also normally has the right value CTS pots for the DR along with the correct 1/4&quot; and RCA sockets.  <br /><br />Here's how mine ended up;<br /><br /><img src="http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i250/ytomk/3dd3eab8.jpg" alt="Image" /></div></blockquote><br /><br />That looks great ! What PT/OT did you use, and where did you get the blue molded caps..?]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 17:33:30 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Bassman Ten :: Reply by ayh</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>worldoftone wrote:</cite>Awesome bro! I modded one of those 5 or 6 years ago for a harp player, we spent literally 22 hours I think on all of the testing etc. It turned out really freaking nice but man it was screaming. He swapped out the 4 x 10s for 2 x 12s.<br /><br />- WOT</div></blockquote><br /><br />2x12&quot; , did  he change the baffle in the Bsmn-10 cab ?<br />I believe the Bsmn 10 chassis is the same size as a Super Reverb chassis ,which gives us a lotta options these days with all the aftermarket cabs available <br /><br />I AM really a 4x10 fan though. This is a great &quot;steath&quot; amp . A rock machine with 4 celestions .........in a silverface package <br />I have managed to &quot;tweed&quot;  all the  non ultralinear bassmans ,this one, Bassman 50 &amp; Bassman 100.  A little preamp circuit change ,and they all exceeded my expectations ,but I think this one is my fave of all.<br />I have yet to use it on a rock gig ,got one comin up in one week .<br />But I did use it on a solo gig the other night ...<br /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/ayhcult/DSC_0005.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></description>
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            <title>Fender :: Re: Bassman Ten :: Reply by drewleslie</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hi ayh, what's the pedal ... a Dallas clone?  Like the stealth idea!]]></description>
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            <title>Miscellaneous British Amplifiers :: Re: Biasing Carlsbro TC60 :: Reply by Mr. Foxen</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[They aren't cathode biased, but they don't have a bias adjusting pot, they were just preset and valves then were good enough to take it. It isn't massively hard to add in a pot, I did it to a 50 Top: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://ampstack.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/jammed-a-bunch-of-stuff-on-ebay/">http://ampstack.wordpress.com/2012/02/1 ... f-on-ebay/</a><!-- m -->]]></description>
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            <title>Miscellaneous British Amplifiers :: Re: Biasing Carlsbro TC60 :: Reply by pwelly</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Thanks. Incidentally the big wirewound resister is 10k not 10 ohms as stated.]]></description>
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            <title>Miscellaneous American Amplifiers :: Gibson service manual :: Author stratele52</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Here you can download in PDF a 513 pages  Gibson Service Manual.  And it is free.  The link is from sawdust read on Hoffman forum.<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.amparchives.com/Amp%20Archives/Gibson/Service%20Manuals/Gibson%20Amplifier%20Master%20Service%20Book.pdf">http://www.amparchives.com/Amp%20Archiv ... 20Book.pdf</a><!-- m -->]]></description>
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            <title>Speakers and Cabinets :: Re: 1976 Blackback Celestion T1871 :: Reply by sound city 69</title>
            <link>http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=101463&amp;p=989695#p989695</link>
            <description><![CDATA[Thanks Jeff for all of he info.]]></description>
            <author>no_email@example.com (sound city 69)</author>
            <category>Speakers and Cabinets</category>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 04:24:43 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Speakers and Cabinets :: Re: Celestion G12C vs G12H :: Reply by sound city 69</title>
            <link>http://www.vintageamps.net/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=101520&amp;p=989697#p989697</link>
            <description><![CDATA[Thanks for your input. Spec. wise the Heritage and the Anniversary are the same according to the Celestion website. I contacted DR. Decibel and was told that the Anniversary was made in China with all of the changes that have come about through the years and that the Heritage was made the same as the originals. He wouldn't comment on the G12C, but I was able to find out through researching on the net that the Vintage Modern G12C speakers are made in China.]]></description>
            <author>no_email@example.com (sound city 69)</author>
            <category>Speakers and Cabinets</category>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 04:44:17 GMT</pubDate>
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